Former Pe Ell coach faces charge of third-degree rape of teenage student

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Todd D. Phelps, left, passes defense attorney Bob Schroeter as he leaves the courtroom in Chehalis.

By Sharyn  L. Decker
Lewis County Sirens news reporter


CHEHALIS – A now-former softball coach at Pe Ell High School went before a judge this afternoon to face an additional charge in connection with alleged sexual contacts with a 16-year-old player on the girls’ team.

Todd D. Phelps, 52, of Pe Ell, is charged with third-degree rape now as well as second-degree sexual misconduct with a minor.

The new count followed further investigation of an incident that allegedly occurred in July in which the girl said Phelps asked her to meet him at his brother’s Pe Ell residence to discuss cuts to her legs and asked her to lower her pants, according to charging documents.

Charging documents allege he kissed her, touched her and suggested more, and she said told him, “No, please don’t.” They engaged in sex and she said “she was very scared and just wanted it to be over,” charging documents allege.

Phelps resigned at the end of April after two years as an assistant coach. His resignation was because of a violation of school policy regarding social contact with students, according to the school district superintendent.

He was summoned into Lewis County Superior Court today where Judge Richard Brosey said he could remain free if he signed a $25,000 unsecured appearance bond.

Phelps was scheduled to return to court Dec. 8 to make his plea.

Phelps was arrested last month following the report about two incidents made in September to the Lewis County Sheriff’s Office.

At the time, he was charged only with second-degree sexual misconduct with a minor in connection with an April 2 encounter with the girl. On that day, according to charging documents, he had asked her to stop by his house and asked her to take off her pants so he could see some cuts on her legs.

She told a deputy Phelps began hugging her, pulled her into his lap and kissed her.

She described her relationship to him as that of a student and coach, and as part of a “second family,” charging documents state.

Third-degree rape carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Second-degree sexual misconduct with a minor is a gross misdemeanor with a maximum penalty of 364 days in jail.

If convicted, Phelps would be required to register as a sex offender.

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173 Responses to “Former Pe Ell coach faces charge of third-degree rape of teenage student”

  1. Amoeba says:

    First, there is an alternate route to avoid passing the girls house, second he was useing this as an excuse to pass her house,third this is not the first time he has violated a court order,fact is he violated two in one action, and managed to pick up a new charge in Municipal Court as a result.Fourth the protection order states clearly not coming within 100 feet of her residence that includes her family residence,fifth, this most recent action by his own free will help illustrate the pattern of behavior of his disregard for the law which besides providing another witness for the state,is probably a key element in the states case. And finally ignorance of the law is no defence.

  2. whatever says:

    JW24: I don’t know much about this case except for reading this site. One question though – if the home was her previous residence then why did the deputy take the time to measure the distance from the home? If she didn’t live there then it seems that it would have been “accidental” and nothing would have happened about it. Example – if they both happen to be in wal-mart at the same time, she got there second, she can’t claim that he was following her. Just my observation….

  3. JustWait24 says:

    How is going to get a trailer to retrieve fire wood to give to a needy family of the church “subtle intimidation”? How can you intimidate someone that doesn’t live there? She’s going to school else where these days isn’t she-then explain to me how is he violating a restraining order on her?
    Has anyone ever been out that direction, or even Google mapped the place? If you know how to get to his brother’s house (where the trailer was) then you know you HAVE to pass her previous residence to get there.
    And some of you have been watching WAY too much Law & Order if you think he would intentionally do things that would cause him further distress over this whole charade.

  4. Bugsy says:

    And by his recent actions, he will continue to do so. Intimidation, harassment, or just plain disregard for the law I don’t know..

    But I would think for his own families/friends honor and sake, he would stay far far away…

    But remember there are those that think they are above the law!

  5. Amoeba says:

    So he WAS by his own admission continueing to drive by the girls house, yes there is a definate pattern thats pretty easy to discern with the defendant. Seems he’s trying to possibly use subtle intimidation. This is going to do him no favors at his trial, fact is, it just gives the prosecution more ammunition.Sure his attorney has told him as much.

  6. Bugsy says:

    He is guilty of violating a restraining order.

    So close to going to trial and he violates the order, I am shaking my head why would you do that, even for the “saintly” reasons posed. If I was in his shoes, I wouldn’t have been within 1/2 mile of that house ever……

  7. RaginCajun says:

    Retaliation is a stinker. I wish Phelps would have postured for a restraining order against the two “followers” who followed him and his wife back to their house and blocked their driveway. That indeed is an act of hostility.
    It’s truly amazing you people have the right of entitlement to see yourselves above the law, Judge, Jury and Justice system overall and serve a conviction of guilty before a trial. You’re just really SPECIAL big dummies. LOL

  8. Bugsy says:

    RaginCajun says:
    Friday, February 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Well thank heavens for Judges with good heads on their shoulders!! I guess it wasn’t too difficult to see through the load of smokin hooey of events in the last 48 hours.

    Since you dated yourself on the last 48hours, you seem to forget that that Mr Phelps was arrested for violating the restraining order.

    But please continue to believe the !Hooey! that you are fed….

  9. RaginCajun says:

    Well thank heavens for Judges with good heads on their shoulders!! I guess it wasn’t too difficult to see through the load of smokin hooey of events in the last 48 hours.

  10. bustybabe says:

    IT DOESNT MATTER IF THIS GIRL GOT NAKED IN FRONT OF THIS MAN,HE IS THE ADULT AND SHE IS A CHILD,HE SHOULD OF SAID NO,,AND I MEAN NO TO ANYTHING,WHETHER ITS FONDLING,KISSIN,MAKING OUT OR JUST TOUCHIN HER BUTT! HES 52 YRS OLD,,,SHES 16 ,THROW HIM IN PRISON,CASE CLOSED!

  11. Amoeba says:

    Oh,Oh,
    The State have given notice it intends to seek a sentence beyond the standard sentence range.That seems to suggest they have aggravating circumstances.
    The plot thickens…..

  12. use your brain says:

    Sharon was kind enough to screen one of my posts. She talked me through it and brought up valid issues I had not thought about. I edited my comments and she posted it. That is why I made the comment about being surprised seeing i can lie if i wanna’s comment with identifiable initials of other people.

  13. sickofthegame says:

    WOW SAYS;
    “I will postpone my opinion until I can look at FACTUAL evidence from THE COURT, not common town gossip.”

    Geez WOW, then what the hell are you doing surfing the comments if you dont pay attention to gossip?

    WOW SAYS;
    “You all are wanting justice, right? Well, sit tight, keep your mouths shut, and observe how the trial unfolds. I know you all want to feel important, and be the big hero, but get over yourself”

    Umm, whos trying to be a hero now?

    USE YOUR BRAIN, this is somewhat a open “forum”. Why should Sharyn hold back that comment, thats what this is all about!

    To the rest of you who are “shocked” or “appalled” or “whatever”…If you dont like whats being said here, simply dont come here.

  14. use your brain says:

    I have to admit I was shocked that Sharon approved the post when such obvious initials were used.

  15. Bugsy says:

    I Think that Sharon should check into “I can lie if I Wanna” . Appears to me to be trying to harass or intimidate a witness or two. Do your best work Sharon…..Follow this one…..It will be worth your time.

  16. use your brain says:

    That is very true Retta….. Another thought…. sometimes others opinions help witnesses come forward who may likely remain silent and in the shadows when they find out there is more admiration for doing the right thing then staying silent.

  17. Realistic Retta says:

    And furthermore, those two people were NOT the only ones who know what happened.

  18. use your brain says:

    WOW, that is an interesting take on things. However I don’t think everyone keeping there mouth’s shut is always helpful. Often times talk and debate help change the status quo and bring about needed improvement and growth surrounding sensitive subjects like these. It is also how society dictates what is okay behavior and what in not okay behavior when outrage or acceptance is expressed. Although I can agree that random trash talking is not necessarily helpful, maybe after a person expresses that type of garbage and that opinion receives backlash they have an opportunity to personally challenge themselves to find out what is amiss. Maybe not today or tomorrow but they will think about it in their life. There is really a hidden opportunity for growth. I am not denying it can be hurtful but I also believe that the really crazy comments brought out much needed support to those that were attacked by i can lie if i wanna and those that share her opinion. Those crazy comments circulate through town like wild fire and those who want to show support to thwart those beliefs do not have an opportunity like this to lend balance.

  19. Wow... says:

    Wow.
    The fact of the matter is that only 2 people know exactly what happened. You all can come on here and point fingers, talk big, and make excuses. The important thing to remember is that these charges are a big deal! Regardless or the outcome, peoples lives will be turned upside down and reputations ruined (both sides).
    How about we do them all a favor and keep our mouths shut? Trying to defend or prosecute one side or the other with “hear say” evidence is not going to do any good. Unless you have personally sifted through all evidence, you really have no idea what the details of the case are. And if you have sat in a legal office and gone over everything, then shame on you for talking about it with the public!!! Talking trash on the internet and around town is not going to get to the bottom of the problem.
    You all are wanting justice, right? Well, sit tight, keep your mouths shut, and observe how the trial unfolds. I know you all want to feel important, and be the big hero, but get over yourself. I believe in the court system, everyone deserves a fair and unbiased trial. I will postpone my opinion until I can look at FACTUAL evidence from THE COURT, not common town gossip.

  20. use your brain says:

    I really like your name Realistic Retta!

  21. Realistic Retta says:

    I also find it crazy to even take anyone’s whose user name is “Ican Lie ifIwanna”, statements into consideration. Who would ever listen to a LIAR! Lying may have worked for you a few times, but now you are caught red-handed! Your lack of character and morals are a joke.

  22. Honestly says:

    Let’s see your name is Ican Lie IfIwanna and you are defending Todd Phelps…..lashing out at those two women…HaHa!! Now that is funny!!!!!

  23. use your brain says:

    WOW Ican Lie Ifiwanna. Looks like the town is going to stand up and do the right thing. I haven’t lived in that town for over 15 years but and I can figure out who you are talking about. Also about five years ago, for about two years I found myself attending some school events and functions. Both woman you are referring are two of the most kindest and respected persons I have been around in the community. They also spend most of their free time giving back to the community. I have witnessed their compassion, kindness, and love they give. They help the town and all of its children have more opportunity by giving so much. I really hope you can find some help and counseling to help you through your anger. By lashing out and says such random weird things, you are hurting yourself. I am truly sorry you are in so much pain.

  24. amoeba says:

    By the above diatribe,I gather the case has not been thrown out.

  25. Ican Lie Ifiwanna says:

    Yv LK and Lisa M…you pathetic excuses for human beings make the world a horrible place. You were sad wastes of skin growing up and you are equally as sad now. LM, you need to face the FACT your daughter is what she is. You hate and you discriminate….which is why your own flesh and blood is being manipulated by the “so called lying victim”. You made me sick decades ago and you make me sick now. WHO is your father by the way?

  26. Ican Lie Ifiwanna says:

    Wonder if this case will be thrown out for lack of credible evidence………I guess time will tell.

  27. george says:

    Comment:
    I agree that there is probally much more to this story than we know. It appears that we will all point fingers and make alot of noise about him..All the while the city of Chehalis is all…Hush Hush about our 17 year vetran of the police dept..( Jeff Elder) who was first involved in “Patty Gate” where he and other officers were disciplined for engaging in phone or computer sex with the 911 operator..on our time…So he gets like paid leave while they Investigate..he ends up being placed in WF west high school as a “hallway officer” or something and ends up being accused and investigated for allegedly Having Sex with a 16 yr old Giri!! Just a few months ago he “Quit” his job…NO CHARGES were filed due to it being 5 yrs ago or something..WTH?? anyone else would be sent to prison and have to register as a sex offender…instead he is able to go to some other police force somewhere and continue his sworn to protect and serve ways!!… I say enough is enough..he was paid to protect and serve..what does he do?.. Why hang this coach out to dry, and let a Dirty cop go free??? Why cant this coach just say ..ok i Quit like we let this police man do??

  28. use your brain says:

    One man’s conjecture is another man’s circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence counts.

  29. use your brain says:

    What the heck are you talking about “DSM logged issues are not “symptoms”. Time to read up a little more on that.”
    I have a masters in psych. Seems like the same rationale used to defend Todd is being used here as well to say that self abuse is a mental illness in and of itself.
    All I see is that you have the ability to cut and paste some excerpts from the DSM. That hardly qualifies your statements as credible.
    As for the two faced back stabbing people who stood behind him in team photos…. are you really serious. They are young girls who wanted to play baseball and he is one of the coaches who holds influence over who gets to play or not. Todd works with their family members and friends. Keeping things of this nature quiet is nothing new in Pe Ell, it has been learned behavior for years. Look at what is happening to this girl for coming forward. I am sure she has lost friends and her reputation is in shambles. Look what you are saying about her. She may have some issues, but hell most female and male teenagers do. Heck most people from Pe Ell do, lol. Would you be saying the same thing about her credibility if she had anorexia, bulimia, or was sexually promiscuous with other males. Your missing the point that what she is or does has nothing to do with what he chose to do. I think you are grasping at straws trying to find a reason, any reason that would make this not true. Maybe you have a good reason for wanting this not to be true but we don’t. Most of us commenting are being objective based on the facts. Now if there is a bomb shell that comes up in court that blows our logical conclusions out of the water then so be it. Until then none of us are going to abandon sound reasoning. When you say that this girl is crazy so she must be a liar only insults you and give us wittnes to your inability to reason because prosecutors and law enforcement have enough evidence to bring the charges forward into a court of law. This is a big deal and charges like this are not based on flimsy hearsay or flimsy evidence.
    The evidence is more than just words on the victims part, there will be text messages, emails, witnesses, etc. He broke a protection order and ended his commitment to coaching over his choices. I am sure there would be evidence of his behavior from the school that could be introduced. If he is smart he will take a plea. But men like him generally don’t think what they are doing is wrong no matter what laws or people say. If he is paying lots of money for a good attorney he may have a chance.
    Even if he were to admit to what he has done he likely thinks it is no big deal and he should not be punished so harshly. I have delt with one to know of his type. It will be interesting to find out if he is smarter than his ego….
    We all know he broke the law violating the protection order and did not act in a professional manner that is required while coaching. As another person mention he was trained on how to behave around young students and educated about what is appropriate touching. I know a player who personally witnessed one of Todd’s daughters yelling at him and another student when he let that student sit on his lap. The daughter even knew it was wrong. But not surprisingly she blamed the student by telling her to get off his lap because he is married. The fault is with the adult. I think you are upset about him being charged with rape maybe because you believe that the girl was pursuing Todd and if she consented to his advances then it is not rape. I hope you are not so naïve that you think nothing happened. Because if that is true you may find yourself in the same dangerous situation if you trust in men like Todd. They prey and count on that type of reasoning in order to commit their crimes. Then… once they ensnared their victims and assult them, the victim often feel embarassed, stupid, shamed and never comes forward because then they realize they should have known and they did not trust their instincts, warning signs and what others knew.

  30. amoeba says:

    My final word on the subject, which also pertains to patterns of behavior:
    At some point the defendant will bolt.

  31. elderberry says:

    Between this and the Booth comments, we are being treated to some interesting insights into how far folks will go to rationalize criminal acts.
    Often ignoring well established patterns of behavior leading up to charges while disputing what they consider to be important details that undermine all other evidence, most of which they aren’t actually aware of.

  32. amoeba says:

    According to court records the state have a list of witnesses to testify in trial.

  33. amoeba says:

    He would not be charged in criminal court if the state did not feel they had probable cause.
    I’m not going over all this again but to point out, he reiceved a warning about violating school boundary policy, he quit his position after this…. he only coached two seasons according to the public record,following his resignation he allegedly called the girl to his vacant house and instructed her to take her pants down then pulled her onto his 52 year old lap, he is next said to have called her to his BROTHERS house….did she know no one else was at either house each time? He is then alleged to have made unwanted sexual intercourse with a MINOR…again he’s 52, he then repeatedly violated a no contact order taken out in a court of law. I’m certain the prosecution held a omnibuss hearing before a grand jury before bringing charges on a felony level. There are also statements made by past players on that team regarding him letting girls sit on his 52 year old lap at practice as well as telling them out of range of the head coach he would come and pick them up if they ever went out and got drunk, and he wouldn’t tell their parents…SECRET KEEPING a RED FLAG. IT all come’s down to who the jury finds most sympathetic.

  34. Ican Lie Ifiwanna says says:

    DSM logged issues are not “symptoms”. Time to read up a little more on that.
    Let me quote you,
    “HE called her to vacant houses without any other people present TWICE”

    How in the he_l do you KNOW this happened for FACT when you just made the statement there were NO WITNESSES?
    Conjecture. Her word against his. Present evidence or go home.

    It is unreasonable to assume every word from the accusers mouth is fact therefore a conviction is due.

    But since you are believing nothing but words: I’m a super model. I look WAY better than Cindy Crawford and my wallet is too small for my fifties and my diamond shoes are too tight.
    All true!!!! Really. I swear.

  35. Amoeba says:

    The only people alleging the girl had any issues are coming from the Phelps support camp.It started with his statement to law enforcement regarding her,”being upset about her problems”….end quote.
    Why would she lie about this,hasn’t she had to change schools, which is a sad statement about that town. It’s a joke to think she had a crush on him,he looks closer to 60 than 50.
    He’ll plead out, he always copped out when faced with challenges in the past, i.e
    quiting when told to cease communicating with her, this is a simple case of some old peckerwood being deluded into thinking he’s still a teenager.
    I feel sorry for his daughters, it’s obvious he gave them no regard.

  36. Kay says:

    She was 16 years old dufus! 16….. Let’s cut to the chase pal..was he not in control of his organ! Figure it out!

  37. use your brain says:

    Seriously Randy???? Heartless comments from Amoebe…. not…. Your name does not look familiar as one of the small town locals that grew up and lived around Todd and his family.
    You do not have to worry about Todd being branded as a pervert because of this incident. He has been branded a pervert for a long time because of his behavior and comments. It is only now he is publically challenged and confronted for what he has done this time.
    You are not a wise person for posting your name for several reasons. But reasoning does not seem to be your strong suit. Hold on to your delusions if you must but the rest of us get it. I lived in that town for many years, related to several families, and there are many men of his same character that were able to get away with the crap he has pulled by minimizing and victim blaming. I had my share of run-ins with older and emotionally stunted males of Todd’s kind when I was a teenager and so did my girlfriends. The subtle and not so subtle groping and innuendoes where constant and pathetic. Some girls were sucked in and submitted to advances only to later be labeled as tramps, whores, sluts, and home wreckers. The men never get blamed. I am so proud of the girl’s family for putting a stop to it and making it public so the rest of the town says no more to men who act this way.

  38. George says:

    MY real name is, indeed, George… or at least that is what it says on all of my identification cards. Nobody needs to know any more than that, and if I feel they DO need to know more, then I will tell them.

    As for this story goes, Randy Worrell, it’s really amazing what people are capable of doing, even after we have known them for years and years, and it seems “out of character” for them to do a certain act. Just because you “know” someone doesn’t mean you REALLY know them. Anyone is capable of doing ANYTHING. Look at the Green River Killer… everyone thought he was a great person and “there was no way he could have done what he is accused of…”

    Similarly, the young woman who brought forth the allegations will be looked at in this case as well… is she, indeed, telling the truth, or is it something from a fantasy that is just being brought out because she was spurned? That is always a possibility…

    So, LIKE I HAVE SAID, instead of making the judgement now, before all the FACTS have been brought into the open, it would be better to wait until those FACTS are brought to light. THEN the truth will be known, and the guilty party will be punished accordingly.

    I’m going to withhold my judgement until such time as those facts get revealed… and I will refuse to take sides. And I’m STILL only going to sign this as “George”…. and you can call me “George” too.

  39. Amoeba says:

    I used Amoeba, because that was what was on my mind when reading about this case. Your a fool to use your “real name” on line.
    Yeah, guilty til proven innocent, fair enough, but their are those that seem to testify to his less than stellar character in his personal life. It is his supporters that are dragging the girl and her family through the mud,I’ve known the girls mother since she was in grade school, and I remember Todd from back when I used to live in Pe Ell, and I know who between the two I prefer.
    I doubt very much this is the first time he has at least attempted this type of picadillo, it’s totally in character with the Todd Phelps I remember.
    And don’t try telling me this 16 year old youth was obsessed with him, and did this out of spite, because her life has been totally disrupted.And the cowardly way I’ve read how some of his supporters are attacking her on-line would probably give pause to any other girls he may have accosted in the past from coming forward.He didn’t even turn out for a single sport in high school til his senior year,when he went out for basketball,and he didn’t letter in it.
    And what was he doing luring a minor girl to a house without anyone else present, and why was he wilfuly violating a no contact order? To the uninformed, it could look like a case of obsessing over her,against all odds. It’s what happens in court that counts .

  40. Randy Worrell says:

    I have known Todd for many years. Its out of character to do what he is accused of. Heartless commenters like amoeba will always side with the alleged victim in cases like this without a shred of personal knowledge of either the alleged accuser or the alleged accused. And it is still “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law,” isn’t it? At least that’s what it was the last time I checked. Just because some one is accused of this type of heinous crime, doesn’t mean they are guilty. Further, Todd resigned, he was not dismissed from his position as girl’s softball coach. If he’s found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then he’s guilty and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But if he’s acquitted and exonerated, and even if the accuser is found to have lied about the incident, Todd will be branded for the rest of his life as a pervert. He’s in a no-win situation. But if he’s acquitted and exonerated, he will at least have the support of his family and relatives, even if he’s been branded in the court of public opinion.

    I have a question that I wonder if any of you can answer: he has coached girl’s softball for many years, and just now he has an urge to go after someone? That’s what I mean when I say it’s out of character for him to do something like this. As a long-time coach of youth sports myself–including a few years of girls softball–we are taught in our certification classes that any touching below the waist is forbidden, with exceptions; especially if it’s a girl. If there is an injury on the field, that involves any area from the waist to the knee, a professional medical person is to deal with it, or an adult of the same sex. A bruise or scrape on or below below the knee is acceptable touching to allow the cleansing and bandaging of the wound. If it’s away from the game, such as at practice or any other location outside of the team, they should go to the doctor or their parent, not the coach. It’s playing with fire to go against training regarding how to properly interact with children. I know he knows that.

    And as far as cowardly supporters are concerned (this directed at you, “amoeba”), I am not cowardly and I am a supporter. And I’m not going to hide behind a phony “humorous screen name” as many of you do. Who on this forum has the guts to stand by their comments by posting their real name? Obviously not “curious,” “know the facts,” “George,” “some one said……..,” “Fisher,” “Use your brain,” “Kay,” “sometimesIwonder” or “amoeba.”

    My name’s Randy Worrell and I’m his brother-in-law.

  41. amoeba says:

    Wow! Whatt’a hottie! It’s easy to see how a teenage girl would become infatuated with that suave silver haired fox. Sure he is a wise older man, much older than the girls parents anyway.
    His defense team should go with that as their legal strategy, a upstanding church going caring father who was the object of desire for a wanton teen vixen. She wanted him SOOOO badly, but his high moral code would not allow for anything so unseemly, so he spurned her. She retaliated by telling an outrageous story how he was the aggressor, and she, the shy demure small town school girl.
    A likely story, after all he is only a 52 year old man, a naive babe in the world, he only had the purest intensions,and the girls best interest at heart.
    That’s what his supporters would have you believe.He’ll plead out,they all plead out…..
    Sometimes I wonder is a sterling insipid example of the cowardly supporters he has around him, birds of a feather….
    He SHOULD take this to trial, the worst that could happen is he’ll be able to make close friends with some BIG Somoan inmates, who like him are very family oriented.

  42. sometimesIwonder says:

    If he hires a decent defense lawyer the victim will be investigated and tried just as much as he will.

  43. Kay says:

    It is easy for everyone to rush to judgment, however one central fact remains, HE IS 52 YEARS OLD….and she is an underage child. We entrust our children to adult teachers and coaches, not perverts. If he was soooo interested in an extra marital affair, why did he not select someone his own age and pay the money? I saw his picture in the paper and wanted to spit on him…such a cocky smirk on his face. Hum, been thinking about jail activities. Them big boys don’t like perverts.

  44. Use your brain says:

    I think this is more than taking sides. The 52 year old adult male was dismissed from his coaching position for improper conduct with under age girls in April 2011. He continued make contact with one female in particular after losing his job which resulting in a protection order being issued in July 2011. He agian continued to have contact with the girl after the protection order was issued and was arrested and charged in October 2011.
    Who is the child and who is the adult? I don’t care what anyone says there is no reason what so ever for this adult male to contunue to contact this child no matter how troubled she may have been. There was a reason he did not contact professionals to help her. It is obvious if anyone care to open there eyes. He wanted to offer his own brand of help.

  45. curious says:

    see I knew people would think I took sides. I dont.. but was trying to explain how there is not fairness in cases like this.. fisher said it best.. they will only investigate him not her… as they always do.. cant put the victim on trial..

  46. Fisher says:

    I agree. Can’t take sides when the facts aren’t known and we have to trust the courts to get the facts. However, I do believe that the suspect will be investigated to the fullest whereas the alleged victim will not. Therein lies the rub. She came to him with what is described as an injury and took down her pants. It sounds like she was persuing him or perhaps setting him up. Conflicts in coaching have happened here before and sometimes girls at that age have problems with people of authority be it a crush or anger. I hope and pray authorities investigate both sides. There can be no fair judgement unless that is done. I hope that only truth decides this.

  47. some one said........ says:

    I have to laugh every time I read a “sex” story of this nature on Lewis County Sirens. You make sure to put in all the X rated tidbits, without even thinking you are contributing to child porn. What hypocrites! Stir the sexual arousal of the faint of heart, but call the “doers” bad. What a joke.

  48. George says:

    To the both of you, you are each taking sides in this case: one of you is for one side, and one is for the other. But do EITHER of you know ALL of the pertinent facts that will be brought up in court? Do EITHER of you know EXACTLY what happened? Neither do I. It will be up to the courts to elicit the truths from BOTH parties, and then take the appropriate actions.

    That being said, I DO agree that crimes against children are crimes against humanity… but when a child commits a crime, they, in turn, need to be punished appropriately so as to teach them that it is not acceptable to commit those crimes.

    Let’s see what the courts find out…

  49. know the facts says:

    You are right. Sometimes people lie. But in this case, the victim is not. I think it’s sad that you are trying to cast doubt on such a sad story when you probably don’t know more about the case than what you read here. This man destroyed so many lives. The victims, the victim’s family members, his own family, etc. Instead of trying to suggest that this girl is lying, maybe you should try to empathize and by sympathetic and supportive of this young child who is hurting and trying to rebuild her life. That’s what she needs.

  50. curious says:

    I am curious how many men and women are convicted of crimes like these on the word of a student, or kid who lies.? personally I know of one in jail at the moment. there is nothing to gage by.. and for far too long acts similar when un punished.. but sometimes.. the kid is striking out and adults cant see/ or prove it. its thier word against the kids. dont get me wrong. I believe a crime against children is a crime against humanity.. and needs addressed ! but i think there are alot of falsly accussed.. two kids in high school. have sex.. not her first time… possibly his. she goes home and is “found out” whats she been doing. and tells of rape cuz good girls dont say yes. the boy, is sent to jail.. not on proof.. but suspicion.. and lives are changed forever.. NOthing can change the pain, anguish and deception caused.. yet I also know truth to be told that rape occurs.. more frequently then reported.. its just a sad sad thing.. society wants to protect.. but.. sometimes thats not always the case.