Centralia police say Officer Phil Weismiller caught up to the subject who was attempting to scale a fence on Elm Street.
Updated at 9:22 p.m.
By Sharyn L. Decker
Lewis County Sirens news reporter
CENTRALIA – A Centralia police officer shot and killed a man last night in a residential neighborhood after a confrontation that began when another officer attempted to contact the individual spotted behind a closed business.
It happened around 2:20 a.m. in an area just east of the Interstate 5 interchange at Mellen Street.
Police say the subject had displayed a knife and said he had a gun during the first encounter and had a knife in his hand during a subsequent encounter about a block away.
The deceased is 48 years old carrying an identification card, from Arizona, according to the Centralia Police Department. His name was not released.
Officers remained on the scene this morning conducting an investigation, along with the Washington State Patrol, at the 1200 block of Elm Street where it ended, according to a police spokesperson.
Police spokesperson Officer Patricia Finch said as she understood, an officer was on routine patrol and observed a suspicious person behind Fiddler’s Coffee on Mellen Street. Officers keep an eye out for potential burglars, she said. Officer Tracy Murphy tried to contact the male, who ignored Murphy and walked away, according to Finch.
Murphy in his patrol car followed him across the street to near the shuttered former King Solomon’s Restaurant building, according to police. Police say that’s where the male showed Murphy the knife, said he had a firearm, and then refused to drop the knife.
According to Finch, the male ran and was pursued on foot by the arriving second officer.
Officer Phil Weismiller met up with the male 100 to 200 yards away.
“(T)he male stopped and confronted the officer, holding a knife in his hand,” police stated in a morning news release. “At one point during the confrontation, the male was shot by the officer.”
The whole event happened within a matter of moments, Finch said.
Medics responded but the man was dead at the scene.
The commotion was frightening for residents of the short dead-end street.
Twenty-year-old Kassie Kohler said she and her mother were asleep on couches in their living room when her teenage brother alerted them he heard gunshots outside his window, she said.
“He Army-crawled from his room to the living room yelling, get down, get down,” she said.
When they finally got the nerve to look out a window, Kohler said she saw a patrol car parked on the lawn between their house and the neighbor to the west, headlights pointed toward the back corner of where the house met with a back fence.
It wasn’t 10 minutes, she said, before there were a dozen police and aid vehicles lining the street.
Police Chief Bob Berg offered more details as the day wore on.
Weismiller arrived in his patrol vehicle to assist Murphy and exited at the northeast corner of the restaurant property where access to Elm Street is barricaded. Murphy drove around to the intersection of Elm and Marsh Avenue to block that route, according to Berg.
Weismiller chased the subject and caught up with him in between two houses where he was unsuccessfully attempting to scale a fence, Berg wrote.
“At that point the subject, still armed with a knife, confronted Officer Weismiller and after refusing commands to drop the knife, the subject was shot,” Berg wrote.
The chief didn’t note how many rounds were fired. No details describing the knife were released.
Kohler said she counted 13 yellow numbered markers on the ground as law enforcement officers examined the scene.
Finch said she didn’t know if the deceased was just passing through town or had relocated here. Police would not reveal his identity until after his family is notified, she said.
Weismiller has been placed on administrative leave as is standard procedure, according to police. Weismiller, 34, has been with the department for a year and a half, coming from the Kelso Police Department where he worked about four years.
He is a former captain in the U.S. Army who has served tours in the Middle East, police said.
Murphy is a 17-year veteran of the department.
The Centralia Police Department requested assistance from what is known as the Region Three Critical Incident Investigation Team, a group of officers from surrounding agencies who look into such incidents.
A records check shows the deceased has arrest and conviction data in Washington, Oregon, Arizona and New Mexico, according to police.
Lewis County Coroner Warren McLeod said the man’s next-of-kin have been notified, but he won’t release the name until his identity is confirmed tomorrow through finger prints.
The team of detectives from the Thurston, Lewis, Pacific, Grays Harbor, and Mason County sheriffs’ offices are expected to complete their work within the next three weeks, according to Berg.
Their findings will go to the Lewis County prosecutor to review the actions of Weismiller for a decision regarding any criminal charges. Once that side of the matter is resolved, an internal use of force review board will convene in accordance with Centralia Police Department policy, according to the chief.
A team consisting of detectives from the Thurston, Lewis, Pacific, Grays Harbor, and Mason County Sheriffs’ Offices conducting the investigation into the officer-involved shooting on Elm Street is expected to complete its work within the next three weeks.
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The other side of the fence at the house on Elm Street.
Tags: By Sharyn L. Decker, news reporter
@ILeft re: Winchell’s, thanks, you never know when intel like that might come in handy.
For any of you that want to read why the 21 foot rule isn’t valid anymore. You can read this: http://www.policeone.com/edged-weapons/articles/102828-Edged-Weapon-Defense-Is-or-was-the-21-foot-rule-valid-Part-1/
There are many things to take into consideration for the 21 foot rule to be valid. If it is dark out, you need to increase that safety distance.
your floride sheep mind wont let you think MIGHT BE NEXT. But you are. Maybe your kids coming home from a party late at night. Gunned down. Your grand kids growing up in a world of police fear and domination. That will only make urge to rebel even worse. Hence more crime and bigger criminal INDUSTRY. Maybe innocents caught in the crossfire. Cops shouldnt have guns. Like France. Leave the right to bear arms to the citizens. Not the over seers. Should have been beat the eff out of with a billy club. That would have been the only option with no fun i mean gun. Are police too afraid to die for the betterment of the community? This Guy did. Supposedly and you sheep believe it.
shooting a guy walking down the street makes us safer? waiting for break in to occur. wtf are you paranoid? cops never prevent burgalries they respond to the 911 call after u notice ur shit missing. Police do not protect you. If they make you feel safe ur fooling your self!! The only protection u have is your Gun cabinent and staying out of ‘BIG brothers way. After all we are all family. They steal from us and tell us how to live. Hell even where to walk and how late to stay up at night. damn 1984 is 30 years late. Theyll just say your car keys are weapon. Hell you dont even have to have one and the po-po will lie his ass off; all over your dead body.
that twenty foot rule applies to a combat zone. Not a semi-urban setting, including a guy walking down the street that didnt follow the recommended path of a freaking sidewalk. Citizen bullying. This sounds like a classic walking on my home from school and getting beat up. Only its the cops and they kill you. Go ahead shoot away. The people will not put up with it.
“Suspicious person”? That means nothing. This guy was walking down the street and cut around a building to save some time. Murphy and his trigger happy sidekick run the guy down and shoot him multiple times. You can see the bullet marks on the building. Pocket knife or not. They should have left a guy alone. Thats encroaching on his admendment right to travel,… and his right to peacefully essemble, the term ‘suspicious person’ leaves too much to the policemans digrestion The discretion is to kill who ever i want and get away with it. This guy was connected to no real crime or illegal activity. That makes it police brutality and murder. If im walking down the street and a cop stops me for no dog gone reason. Damn right im gonna put up a fight. INJUSTICE!
BobbyinLC: I have never commented on this site before and the one time I do you kindly tell me to shut up. No one said this was popularity contest and thank you for pointing out the subject matter, which you assume we have all forgotten. If police haters are going to get on this site and make untrue statements about officers, you can bet the people who truly know them should step up to their defense. All I offered was a completely opposite recollection from that bafoon Larry Butler of an officer from high school. Now back to the subject matter. My condolences to the officers involved. You should sue the parents of this guy for failure to raise him properly. I was raised to obey and respect the police.
mommagreen said, “It never says he charged. It says he refused orders to drop the weapon and was shot during this confrontation. It says the officer confronted him from 100 -200 yards away. This is way more than the 20 feet you all keep talking about.”
The article actually said, “According to Finch, the male ran and was pursued on foot by the arriving second officer.
“Officer Phil Weismiller met up with the male 100 to 200 yards away.”
First of all, I am a very good shot, expert in the Army. That would have been in incredible shot for me, or just about anyone else with a pistol, especially in the dark. But the article doesn’t say they were 100 or more yards apart, it says they met up 100 or more yards away. It helps to not read something into the story that isn’t there.
still waiting for justice, really, you want cops to spend their time in the donut shop and just let the break-ins occur? Okay, now I know for sure what you do for a living. I hope they catch you soon and it won’t bother me a bit if you resist and get blown away.
btw, the net says Centralia has a Winchell’s on Tower Avenue.
Okay I have to weigh in. This article is about an officer involved shooting. It is not a Tracy Murphy popularity contest especially since he was not involved in the shooting. Try and keep on task here folks.
@Guiltybystander: no cop needs to be a mind reader when someone is facing them with a knife and refusing to put it down. There is no “benefit of the doubt” moment. You either assume the worst or you are a fool. I’m sure things will come out in short order that will clear up a lot the gaps in information. That is the nature of shooting investigations. Of course some people here will never be satisfied, which brings me to;
@still waiting for justice – nice to see you have such a firm grasp on the dynamics of a use of force incident. We have no clue how this incident evolved other than the synopsis (and that is what these news stories are, a synopsis) presented in the various press versions, all of which vary only slightly. We don’t know if there was time to deploy a bean bag shotgun, but if there was and I had been the supervisor
I would have kicked the officer’s a** all the way to Key West. Why? Because a knife is a lethal weapon and bean bag is a less lethal response. THAT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE OPTION !!! Get that through your thick a** skull. You do not apply a lower level of force in an effort to overcome a LETHAL THREAT…You have to be a simpleton not to understand that. As for your moronic theory extrapolated to the absurd…that the idiot would still be alive if the cops would have stayed at the donut shop or Denny’s and just let the burglaries occur, then the only thing that would have happen would have been the minor loss of property and some simple crime reports; Wow, could you be a bigger fool? And what if one these store owners was asleep in their business (like last year) an interrupted this guy, who then stabbed him or her to death. Then you would have been bitching that the cops were sitting in the donut shop(does Centralia even have a donut shop?) or Denny’s when they should have been out patrolling the areas behind closed businesses looking for potential burglars. You can’t have it both ways. I’m guessing you suffer from some kind of mental disorder, because that is the only thing that could explain that level of intellectual dishonesty. This idiot is dead because he refused to comply, not once but several times, with the lawful orders of the people we endow with the authority to protect us. They are obligated, by us through their oath to protect our, rights, our lives and our property, that does not mean they should sell their lives cheaply in that service, nor should we expect them to take excessive risks (although they often do) to carry out those duties and obligations. Uneducated, nonsense the likes of what you wrote tells me that you have better cops around here than YOU deserve.
Still waiting for justice – I agree with you. I think every one of these highly trained officers needs to be sent to karate school so they can learn how to Kung fu a knife out of a dirt bags hands like they do in the movies (and yes I am patronizing you moron). To Sandra – you are just sorry that he is no longer alive to bring back the booty he stole from others to give to you. I can’t wait to see this guys criminal record. Something tells me he has been down this road before. I don’t get you people. These officers are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. You’ve got an officer with 17 years experience who sees a guy lurking around a closed business and checks things out, yet you suggest he should go eat donuts and do a break-in report the next day instead? I am a small business owner. My business is my livelihood. It is what feeds my family and pays my bills. It is what I hope to retire on someday since I cannot afford a retirement plan and health insurance. If I found out that an officer saw a guy lurking around my business, but chose to go to Denny’s while my business was robbed, I’d be out for his badge. This no name idiot would have never been caught the next day especially since he wasn’t known to the police and had out of state I’d. Every day over the last month I read in the paper about a business being broken into or a homeowner that was burglarized. When do we get protection? Thank you CPD. At least I appreciate you protecting local business. As for the dead guy, you got what you asked for. Wonder what Fiddlers has to say? I would be delivering coffee and doughnuts today while thanking them. I’m sure that business wasnt cheap to start from the ground up.
I don’t think anyone can say for sure if this was justified or not until the details come out. But all of you people saying he charged the officer, please tell me where you saw that. It never says he charged. It says he refused orders to drop the weapon and was shot during this confrontation. It says the officer confronted him from 100 -200 yards away. This is way more than the 20 feet you all keep talking about. The report doesn’t state that he charged anyone. It says he ran away and then stopped. If the officer had his gun drawn and the suspect was standing there holding a weapon but didn’t charge the officer, and was that that far away…. well seems to me that maybe this could have been resolved a different way besides shooting. Doesn’t matter, it will be deemed justified in the end of course.
Some of these people really deserve to get roundhouse kicked in the garden area for being such raging idiots.
I too would like to offer a different perspective of Officer Murphy. I went to school with Tracy from K -12. We did not run in the same circle, but as I recall he was polite, funny, kind, an entertainer of sorts. I never saw any bully-like behavior in 12 years. He was a good kid. As for “Larry Butler Fan” (whoever you are) I remember you too. You were the kid who was picked last on every team. The one who had deep dark family problems at home and was anti-social at school. The one who hated anyone who was popular. You are the kid that IF it would have been popular in the 80’s to bring a weapon to school and threaten your school mates you would have been the one. It is apparent your teachers passed you so they wouldn’t have to deal with you the next year. The reason I say that is because it is apparent you cannot read. If you were able to read you would see that Officer Murphy didn’t shoot the guy, Officer Weismiller did. From what I have read, the guy pulled a knife on Tracy and then threatened him with a gun. That is when he should have been shot. It sounds to me like Tracy exercised a great deal of restraint. That doesnt sound like a bully to me. As far as your comment that daddy got him his job…? As I recall his dad wasn’t a chief of the fire department until well after Tracy became a police officer. His dad was nothing more than joe blow the fireman. I bet his dad put in a good word for his son, but are you suggesting he pulled some strings with the psychologist who passed him? Are you saying his dad helped him pass all the testing required to be a police officer? You Sir are a complete idiot. It is clear you have been arrested by Officer Murphy and you are choosing to use this sad event as your own agenda. Just so you get it, the public sees right through you.
one would have to wonder how the night would have ended if the police would of been at the donut shop or at dennys having an earlier breakfast:
Everyone would have most likely woke up the next morning either to sunshine or rain (who knows). probably one of the business owners would of showed up to work and discovered that either someone broke into their business the night before and stole some coffee / food and maybe some money if it was accessible. The cops would of been called and a small investigation would of took place. An report would of been filed for the break-in and maybe if a there was enough evidence, an arrest could of been possible, but the interesting part is no one would of ben killed.
All I am saying is this guy was probably up to no good, but it doesn’t sound like he was out to kill anyone. most likely he was a cornered thief that refused to give up his weapon or his tool of choice for breaking in, but it didn’t sound like he was pursuing anyone, he wasn’t holding anyone hostage, he wasn’t running through anyone’s house slashing people, he was caught being somewhere where he should of not been and was trying to run away. what about a police dog who probably could of took the suspect down with a few well place bites, or what about the shotgun bean bags which possibly been an effective way to defuse the situation?
Shucks, Greg, I was kind of hoping the CPD had Vulcan mind-meld training so they could know what might possibly be going on in this guy’s head to make him think it was wise to confront a cop with a knife.
Like one story said, we are only hearing the half of the story the shooter has told. We will never hear another side, do we all know that the half we heard is not the way the shooter is keeping himself from judgment. Has anyone who has commented on this page ever thought it possible that police are human too and capable of telling lies and deceiving other humans for their survival.
So where was the dude that runs the site dirtycopsmustregister.com why was he not there filming the whole thing. He can film everything else that the cops do or any city official but why was he not following the cops around on this one. Just thought that it would have made a good show on YouTube….
Before retiring in 2007, I was a deputy sheriff in Riverside County, CA for 30 years. We were never expected to confront a person with a knife with anything less than lethal force, i.e. a firearm. We were told that we were not paid to fight fair, we were paid to win. To expect your police officers to take on people with knives using batons, Tasers, ninja throwing stars, or Vulcan mind control is unreasonable and unrealistic. Distance is the only thing that gives you any hope of escaping uninjured and despite depictions on TV people don’t drop immediately, when shot and may not stop at all. Some may suffer mortal injuries and fight like hell, right up until their last breath. To the Officers I send my best wishes and regards, been there, done that. Stay safe Brothers.
Hey Butler, here’s how it works, first they have to determine that the local task force conducted a biased investigation which blatantly covered up obvious police wrong doing, which resulted in this miscreant’s demise, thereby denying him of his Civil Rights. Then they call in the Famous But Incompetent…yes, incompetent.
But don’t get worked up too much. It won’t happen. Based on the description of this incident, this mutant is lucky he wasn’t shot earlier. Look I get it, you hate police, you really hate officer Murphy (whom I’ve never met, but my neighbor says he’s a stand up guy) so I gotta ask; Did Murphy or some other cop steal your girlfriend? Did they catch you with a “special friend” in the men’s room at Borst Park? Why the vitriol?(it’s a real word, look it up). Actually, given your fixation…maybe you have a little (emphasis on little) man crush on Murphy…is that it? No? According to you, he comes from a family of public servants, (dad was the fire chief), but you accuse him of being a bully. Others on this board say he’s a decent guy, but you have no problem accusing him of murder, you call him a loose cannon, but he’s a lifelong member of this community, and according to CPD has worked there for 17 years. It would be tough to be a loose cannon for that long and keep your job without a major screw up. I would submit that the opposite is true, he is a stable, even keeled individual, who It sounds to me like he’s given more to make this a better place to live than you have. You just sound like an arrogant, bitter a**hole.
Someone stated that Tracy Murphy was a bully in school. I would like to give another perspective. I attended preschool through graduation with Tracy, and he was always a gentleman. I have thought, since I heard he joined the force, that he was a great person for the job.
From the article it sounds like both officers did their jobs, and I am glad they weren’t hurt while doing it. It’s unfortunate that someone lost their life, but there isn’t always a different option.
I agree about Tracy Murphy. He was the meanest bully in school and he likes bullying people. In fact he still bullys me all the time. One day when I wasnt looking he killed me dead. But then I was ok later and we got married and had a child named David Lowe. And then DLowe fell in love with Larry Butler and they started a boy band and they liked flouride. Cause they were smart.
To “it does t matter”. You obviously have no knowledge about the use of force and how force lethal or not work. Cops dont bring pepper spray or a taser to a knive fight… This is common sense. Law enforcement is structured to survive a deadly force encounter. Guys come at you with a knife, you opt to us taser… Taser fails and you get stabbed in the face. LE does not match the suspect with force. LE steps up the scenario and brings a gun to a knive fight, not a knife or pepper spray. End state is this; all the suspect had to do was obey the police and he’d stil be here to talk about it. The cops want to go home safe at the end of their shifts just like anyone would. If someone is walki g towards you with a knife…how far does it go when the Officer cannot let him advance any closer? The dead man made his choice today, sadly
“A team consisting of detectives from the Thurston, Lewis, Pacific, Grays Harbor, and Mason County Sheriffs’ Offices.”
No mention of any FBI involvement, even though somebody’s civil rights were violated.
I thought Inslee suspended the death penalty a day or two before this…
i don’t know offhand, Wayne … could have been a comment too vulgar. or could have included potentially libelous stuff. –sharyn decker, news reporter and website administrator
I can not understand why you will not post my comments .i know som of my comments might be kinda rought but I have the right of speech just like the Drugies . Look at so,me that you put on. Iam behind the police officers until i I dieI put one on about Mansfield. And never saw a thing .I used to think this was one of the best information sources to Lewis County but there is to much. Political agendas
I think if someone has a knife and pulls it the officer has every right to defend himself. A knife is a deadly weapon.
They just towed his car from my apartment complex. I live about seven blocks from where he was killed. We all got questioned about if we knew him, not one of us out of 16 homes said we did. Pretty sure he was up to no good. None the less it’s sad that he was so desperate. Sad for the people that love him, and sad for the officer that had to do what any honest cop would never want to do.
I think the dumbass got exactly what he deserved. If the idiot was stupid enough to think charging at an officer, while wielding a knife, is going to survivable then he was an idiot. Looks like the average intelligence on earth just raised a notch. I would have to guess that Sandra is a real piece of work to be standing up for him.
Im not shocked at these comments based on the combined IQ of this crowd. Take away the badge in this scenario and have a career criminal charge at a citizen minding his or her own business. If the citizen would have pulled a gun and killed this nut, would it be better?
Well, Sandra, your fiance went after a cop with a knife. Good plan eh? Yes, many other things could have been done, like I dont know, not lurking around closed business’ @ 2:20am for starters~
i live a block away from where the man was shot. personally i think the officer was doing what was right. at the same time im sorry for his loved ones that hes gone. but the officer was doing what was right from what he was trained.
Thank you Centralia Police for keeping Centralia Safe once again. Good to see Officer Murphy and Officer Phil Weismiller are doing there job. As I always tell them when we talk: STAY SAFE OUT THERE and they did.
Sorry about your loss, but a pocket knife can be a lock blade 5 in. Long. Not just a Swiss army knife with siccors and a toothpick on it.
One of the basic personality traits of criminals is a refusal to take responsibility for their actions (often enabled in this by loved ones). If you A) pull a weapon – or anything that looks like a weapon – on an officer, particularly in the dark, when s/he has asked you to stop – you’re B) likely to encounter some consequence. It’s a terrible thing to happen, perhaps it could have been prevented. Yet if a police officer gives me an instruction, even if he is wrong, I’m not going to flash a pocket knife, toy gun, whittling stick, or any other object at him. I’m going to stop, face him, maybe even put my hands out wide so he can see I’m harmless, and leave rightness or wrongness til later, perhaps with my lawyer present. Why is this concept so difficult to grasp?
If he would have stopped when ordered to do so the whole thing would not have come down to the shooting. He must have run because he had something to hide or was afraid the police would find something on him or some reason to arrest him. If he did not stop. of course they were afraid he probably had another weapon besides the knife. Who would know? Would you want to take a chance with your life?
The officer was not stabbed and the deceased (my fiance ) did not have a gun . What he had was a pocket knife ! Many other things could have been done
A knife is a very dangerous weapon. I support the cop who pulled the trigger when the offender charged the officer and clised within that 20 foot rule. A taser is a bad defense choice as it is common for people on drugs or amped so high with adrenaline to not even be affected by a taser. Just what is it that those anery by the shooting think the offender was gonna do with the knife? Slice an apple for the cop? He intended to inflict harm to an officer. Dont be up to no good and obey the officers of the law and all will be fine. A wise man said to me, nithing good ever happen after midnight so go home before it starts
Some people’s ignorance really AMAZES me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ larry butler. Why don’t you read the story ya dipstick? Murphy didn’t DO the shooting. TRY READING BEFORE YOU TALK SMACK!!! Anyway, since you just proved your intelligence, Murphy is one of the nicest cops out there, so if , it must be your problem. As far as the other idiot naysayers on this board, your criminals also and we don’t care what you say ! Heck you anti cops are probably all just DAVID LOWE anyways…..I’m I right David? How many fake names do you have?
“The officer involved, Officer Phil Weismiller…”
So is Phil an alias for Tracy?
Once again people’s personal distain for cops gets in the way of what the facts really are.
I dont think it was officer Murphy who did the shooting or maybe I just read the article wrong.
I knew it would only be a matter of time before Tracy Murphy murdered someone. I don’t believe a word of it. Tracy has always enjoyed pulling his pistol on unsuspecting people. It goes all the way back to high school. He’s a loose cannon. Always has been, always will be. He could never work for any other agency than the Centralia Police Department. He only has his job because his daddy pulled some strings as centralia fire chief. Tracy was also a bully in high school. There needs to be a thorough investigation by OUTSIDE agencies such as the FBI for civil right violations of the highest order. There needs to be a grand jury convened so that this crap can stop.
stay indoors after curfew.
Of course he will be cleared. Who is investigating it?
And yeah, how many times was the officer stabbed? I missed that part..
It is NOT obvious who will win a knife vs gun fight. Which is why they have the 21 foot rule. What are you going to say when it turns out that the officer was actually (gasp) in danger? More political sewage about the government taking over? Or will you apologize for all of the negative statements that have nothing to do with local government? I bet I can guess 🙂
I take it you already know there is no video of the incident? In any case, anyone who actually knows much of anything, knows a person with a knife can run up and stab a person with a gun before the person with the gun can draw and fire, even from over twenty feet away. Astonished is asking the right question, “exactly how many times does the knife wielder get to stab the officer before its OK to shoot him?”
Yes, really bad idea to show up at a gun fight with a knife, for exactly the reason illustrated. The thing is, the cop did not start the fight, but he certainly finished it. He will be cleared and rightfully so.
Maybe keep your nose clean and you won’t have to worry about being shot!
History is written by the victors.
Pretty obvious who the victor will be in a knife vs gun battle.
So, we are left with one side of the story…once again.
Why are our “Peace Officers” (if that is not an Orwellian term) so against wearing cameras? Why do they object to being filmed by the citizens? They drive around in armored cars with automatic weapons and refuse to answer to the people who pay them (by forced taxation).. Face it, this is the road to absolute tyranny.
Wear a camera or turn in your gun.
Wow, so exactly how many times does the knife wielder get to stab the officer before its OK to shoot him?
When will the police carnage and brutality stop?? Napavine, Vader now Centralia? The body count is piling up. Bringing a knife to a gun fight? That seems to be the common theme. 10 million a pop you better be justified. But a knife vs gun doesnt seem like a fair fight. So how is it defense? When your just quicker on the trigger. More eager to take a life because of a badge. A taser would have had the same effect without death. Lack of training. Lack of skills. Fear. Not knowing when to let it go. Maybe if it costs them their retirement fund they will stop killing people. DAMN RIGHT 10 MILLION. Police better figure out a better scenario than do what i say or die. Police pull guns on the daily. Gun control starts with you. Atleast this guy actually did have weapon. Still not justified. When u take an oath to serve and protect. This guy maybe be insane but u still have to protect. Forgive him for his lack rational thinking and let him get help. Use not lethal means. Hitler was famous for thinning out the herd. The mentality sick, elderly and poor. I thought the USA was better than that. You sick bastards.